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* December 31 1890 New Orleans, La

As a brass band musician he played with: Camelia, Eureka, Henry Kid Rena's, Holy Ghost, Onward, Pacific, Tulane, Young Tuxedo Brass Band

This article is a 'tribute' to the great trombone players who helped make the sound of the great Eureka Brass Band.

ALBERT WARNER

'We wanted Albert Warner on trombone. He had been one of my favourite trombonists from the moment I first heard him - along with Sonny Henry - in the Eureka Brass Band funerals and parades I got to in the late fifties. He was one of the last and most exciting exponents of an earlier tradition in which the trombone combined its fonction of sustaining rhythmic foundation with that of providing the bass voice in the polophonic melodic line. The firmness of his rhythm became melody in itself. It made one want Albert to play more solos but with a shy smile he wouls always insist that wasn't really his role in the band." (Walter Eysselinck - liner notes American Music CD - AMCD-81 - De De Pierce and his New Orleans Stompers in Binghamton, NY Vol. Three)

Albert Warner was born in New Orleans, Louisiana around St Ann and Roman Streets on December 31, 1890. He was brought up in the famous Trémé section. "I was christened at the oldest church in here, this St Boniface… Catholic. It was back on Galvez, Galvez and Onzaga. I went to school at Robertson School. I first went to Bayou Road School at Derbigny and Govenor Nicholls. After that they moved us from there up to Bienville and Robertson, the old Robertson School, across from the cemetery. They used to teach you music, but they didn't have any bands then. All they did was teach you the notes and things, you know. Well, I heard this fellow, he was a young fellow here, he left here, … Zue Robertson. Well, Zue was a good friend of ours, you know, he was a good musicianer. Zue could read and play barrelhouse, he played down in the District sometimes. And I heard this other boy, Vic Gaspard. And Baptiste Delisle, he used to play all these halls around here."
He first started learning music with one of his half brothers, Ulysses Jackson. Ulysses had learned to play trombone with Honoré Dutrey. "Well, when he left, before he left, he bought him a new trombone and a boy wanted to buy his old trombone from him and he refused to sell it to him. He say he wanted it for his brother. Well, he sent downtown and got me, and I went on up to his house to see what it was all about. I got there and he gave me this little old brass horn, with about a bell the size of a saucer, little French horn. When, then, I told him I didn't have time to be worried with that thing. He says, "Well, you got to learn!" He says, "I'm getting ready to leave New Orleans", he says, "and I want you to take and learn this thing." I said, "Oh, I don't have time with that." Well, what he did…he went and put it together and handed over to me, says, "Well, blow on it." Well, when I first picked it up, I couldn't blow it. so, he say, "Well, keep on." I just took the thing, kept a blowing first position. So, finally, I made a note in there. I said, "What note is that?" He said, "Well that's B-flat." So he said, "Keep on blowing." So after I made that note, well, he pushed it in the second position. He held my hand and showed me the second position. Well, I made that note. Then he turned around and shoved my hand in the third position. I made that note. Well, after that, that kinda made me kinda like the thing. I said, "Well, shucks, this thing ain't as hard as I thought it was." So, finally, before I left there, he had me making those three positions. He said, "Now, all that I want you to do now, go down and buy you a method and come up here twice a week. I'm gonna give you lessons. My half-brother Ulysses went to Chicago and he died in Chicago. He used to play with the Excelsior Brass band then and he played with Honoré Dutrey. My daddy used to play bass, that's string bass. He played with some of these old musicianers like himself. Freddy Keppard was kind of a little cousin of mine, you know…well, they used to call me Freddy Keppard. Everywhere I went, people used to call me Freddy Keppard, I looked just that much like him, you know. And his brother, Louis, live around on Villere Street now, well that's my cousin, you see. "
I was about twenty two at the time. Before I never worried with music. I had the opportunity to play piano, but I was a fast man at the time and didn't have time to worry with the music. So, after that, I went and bought the method and started going up there twice a week."
After having had his lessons from his stepbrother, Warner went to Arthur Steve (Stevens) for some lessons. Steve (Stevens) was also a trombone player, who lived on St Philip Street. Afterwards, he bought himself a self-instructor. A friend wrote a company in New York to get Warner a self-instructor.
"So, at that time, I was in the pressing business and so every time I'd blow the horn, I'd lay it down, I'd go press a piece, I'd come back, blow the horn, go back and press another piece. And my wife say, "Gee whiz, you make me sick with this thing." I say, "Well, I might make you sick now, but some days this thing'll come in handy." Finally, after I'd kinda got good with it, Jiles came along. He wanted me to join a little band he was putting up, a little brass band, back on Conti Street. They called it the Bull's band. So I used to rehearsal with them every Sunday. And I used to go by Pete ('Peapicker' Pierre), and Pete helped me out a whole lot, you know. And he'd showed me different things."
The Jiles brass band used to rehears at a barber shop on Bienville Street. Amos White joined the band and he would write out some music for Warner to practice.
"So, the first job they had, for Carnival day, Steve say, well, I wasn't good enough, he wouldn't take me out. So, the boys say, well, they say, "You better take him with you so you'll have some kind of help." So he went on out there and he came out there, he fell down on the job! Next job that we got was down at the Holy Ghost Church, there…Holy Redeemer…down on Royal and Elysian Fields."
"And I started playing with Louis Dumaine and Eddie Jackson. So, they'd send downtown and got me…they was living uptown..so they said they wanted me to play with them. So, I went on and started playing with alittle band they had up there. So, after this, I left them and I went with a fellow by the name of William…the Columbia Band. Then I went with the Camellia Band led by Wooden Joe Nicholas. Well, the Camellia had a pretty good pull around this town. They had work in the countries and down in Violet and all these different places….Bertrandville…they was going pretty good. Johnny Prudence used to play with me in the Camellia Band. So, I went with Chris Kelly, and different fellows, you know, I would go around playing with…next band I got with was Kid Rena…well, I stayed with Kid Rena a good while…this was his dance band. Then I'd leave him, and well, when I left him I went with another fellow who had a band around here. Well, I played with him a pretty good while until I got around depression time. When it got around depression, then I just give up playing…stopped altogether."
In 1928, Albert Warner was a member of the Tonic Triad Brass Band with Isidore Barbarin, Red Clark, Albert Francis, Chicken Henry, Willie Pajeaud and Alcide Landry. The Tonic Triad was led by Professor Pritchard.

"Kid Rena's dance band? Well, they played music and by ear too, but they was better on this routine stuff than they was on music. You see, because a lot of time they had music up there, they just was guessing at it, see…especially the sax, you know. Well, the time I was playing with them, they had Kid Rena, Edna mitchell, Joe René, myself, Manny Gabriel, John Handy, Henry Harding, who played tenor saxophone. And they had another boy from Bay St Louis…he played sax. And they had this other boy playing bass…'Lizard'…Chester 'Lizard' Zardis…was playing bass. It was ten pieces. Son Thomas was on guitar. We was playing up on the Astoria…around about 1927-1928…we played up there, it must have been about a year and a half. Lee Collins used to come up there…well you see, after we left from up there, then they started playing what you call 'percentage' jobs. Then they was using different bands.
Then Remy had a band. He used to come up there, you see…that's Ti Boy Remy.

"To get back to the Eureka Band here, see, way back, as far as I can remember, Cornish had come to get me to play with the Eureka Band. Well, Cornish, he wasn't no kind of reader, but he always wanted somebody that could help him out. So, he came and he got me to play one job. After he got me to play one job, well, he did just liked what I did. Well, then, he say, "You stay here." So, I said, "All right." So, I continued playing with them. The band was going down, they wasn't doing much work. And Wilson was running a little candy stand and he didn't have time to rehearse. So, I say, "Well, you run your candy stand, I'm going to play music." So, they didn't want me to play, I told him, "Well, I'm going to the country." So, he say, "Well, I have to get somebody to play." So, I say, "All right, you get somebody to play. Well, get Red Clark, Red plays trombone." That's how they got Red in the band you see. I was in the band before Red, you see. Well, at that time we used to rehearsal up and down Rampart Street, see, sometimes they rehearsal in the back of one barroom and then the next time they rehearsal in the back of a restaurant. See they didn't have no regular place. I'm the only old man in there. I was playing with them then at the time Louis came down here to play that "Peanut Vendor", when Louis was at the Suburban Gardens, that was way back in 1931. When Louis came in, why, then, we went and picked up Louis at the L&N depot there. And Louis had that "Peanut Vendor" out then, that's the time he was playing the "Peanut Vendor". And we brought him through Canal Street there. It had to be the Eureka because that was the Zulus band then, you see. Well, they had one bras band and, if I'm not mistaken, they had a band in a wagon, you know, playing on a furniture wagon. We played through Canal Street, brought him on up to the hotel, The Patterson on Julia and Rampart. When Buddy Petit died, cause we played Buddy Petit's funeral, you see. At that time in the band were Willie Wilson, Johnny Wilson, myself, Cornish, Flowers, I think 'Little Jimmy', 'Groundhog', and George Lewis was playing clarinet, Shots, Alcide Landry. I remember Landry because I used to kid him about begging cigarettes. Lick his finger, he meant for somebody to give him a cigarette. And Verret on tuba.

Over the years, the Eureka Brass Band was recorded many times. In the Summer of 1951, David Wyckoff and Alden Ashforth came to New Orleans with the idea to make some recordings. During their stay they recorded Kid Thomas with Milé Barnes (Hope Hall, Algiers, La September 3, 1951)(American Music -AMCD 10), Billie and DeDe Pierce with Milé Barnes Louisiana Joymakers (August 30, 1951)(American Music-AMCD 13) and the Eureka Brass Band in August, 1951 (American Music AMCD-70).
David and Alden wanted to record the Eureka as their top priority because they thought that the brass bands that were recorded so far did not represent the real brass band tradition since they had been specially assembled for the occasions and because of the fact that the band had made such an impression with its power and finesse. Percy Humphrey, Willie Pajeaud and Eddie Richardson were on trumpet, Sonny Henry and Albert Warner on trombone, Ruben Roddy, alto sax, Manny Paul, tenor sax, George Lewis, E-flat clarinet, Red Clark, sousaphone, Arthur Ogle, snare drum and Robert 'Son' Lewis, bass drum.
Another jazz enthousiast and researcher who wanted to record the Eureka Brass Band was Sam Charters. Since he had heard the band in December 1950, he was decided to record the band. With the help of Frederic Ramsey jr and Moses Ash from Folkways records, in January 1956, he was finally able to realise his dream. Charters recorded the Eureka Brass Band in rehearsal on three occasions on January 12, 19 and 26, 1956. Warner is present on the latter two and Kid Sheik replaced Eddie Richardson. (American Music AMCD-110/111) On March 3, 1958, Charters recorded finally the Eureka Brass Band for Folkways. Alfred Williams had replaced Arthur Ogle.
In 1962, Atlantic made some recordings in New Orleans for their series 'Jazz At Preservation Hall'. On July 2, 1962, they recorded the Eureka with the following personnel Percy Humphrey, Kid Sheik and Peter Bocage, trumpets, Albert Warner and Chicken Henry, trombones, Manny Paul, tenor sax, Willie Humphrey, clarinet, Wilbert Tillman, sousaphone, Cie Frazier, snare drum and Robert Lewis, bass drum. (Mosaic Records MD4-179)

In the Autumn of 1942, Albert Warner was present on Bunk Johnson's second recording session. Others in the band were George Lewis, Walter Decou, Lawrence Marrero, Chester Zardis and Edgar Mosley. In his liner notes, Eugene Williams wrote "a trombone player who also works in these bands (Original Tuxedo N°1 and the Tulane), Albert Warner, was called in to make the records at the last minute, when Bunk's first choice couldn't make the date. In spite of this disadvantage, Warner - a former member of Joe Nicholas' and Kid Rena's jazz bands - made a fine showing with his reliable foundation playing."

Our fellow countryman, Walter Eysselinck made some important contributions to the preservation of New Orleans music. He was the man behind the Love-Jiles Ragtime Orchestra. Albert Warner was a stronghold of this band that played the music from the famous Red Back Books. Charlie Love was on trumpet, Peter Bocage, violin, Albert Warner, trombone, Polo Barnes, clarinet, Manny Sayles, banjo, August Lanoix, bass and Albert Jiles, drums. In June, 1959, The Love-Jiles Ragtime Orchestra was recorded at a rehearsal at Milé Barnes house on Metropolitan and Louisa Streets in New Orleans. On this occasion Bocage was not present and McNeil Breaux was on bass. These recordings were issued on Sounds Of New Orleans SNO 1 LP, and are not issued on CD so far. The orchestra was recorded by Riverside in New Orleans on June 12, 1960. (Riverside OJCCD-1835-2) A few weeks later, in August, Walter recorded the band again at a private party. Kid Sheik and Love were on trumpet, Warner, Milé Barnes, clarinet, Louis Gallaud, piano, Sayles, banjo, Jiles, drums. (504 Records 504 CDS 21). This band was also recorded as Emile Barnes and his New Orleans Joymakers on August 21, 1960 at Tulane University. Until now this session remains unissued. On August 17, 1960, Albert recorded again with Charlie Love, Milé Barnes and Ernest Roubleau. This session has never been issued on record.

In the pre and post Preservation Hall days, Albert Warner was one of Ken Mills' favourite artists. He was recorded on August 13, 1960 with Billie and DeDe Pierce, Milé Barnes, Slow Drag Pavageau and Albert Jiles. Albert was a member of Kid Sheik's Storyville Ramblers that were recorded on August 6, 1961 for Mills' Icon label. (American Music AMCD-56). In the band were Kid Sheik and Punch Miller, trumpets, Warner, trombone, Steve Angrum, clarinet, Harrison Verrett, banjo, Slow Drag Pavageau, bass and Alec Bigard, drums. In the Spring of 1962, Mills recorded a band he called Albert Warner's Brown Buddies with Kid Sheik, Milé Barnes, Warner, Ernest Roubleau on banjo, John Joseph, bass and Albert Jiles, drums. (American Music AMCD-66) Another live recording that Mills made at the hall he ran at that time, Icon Hall or Jeunes Amis Hall, in July, 1962 of a band called Harrison Verret's Fern Dance Hall Band (Sheik, Warner, George Lewis, Harrison Verret, Slow Drag Pavageau and Alfred Williams) was issued on American Music AMCD-65. On August 31 and September 2, 1962, Albert Warner was present on a recording session of a band led by Punch Miller (American Music AMCD-57). Members of Punch Delegates of Pleasures were Punch, Warner, Israel Gorman, George Guesnon, Wilbert Tillman and Alec Bigard. On September 5, 1962, recorded Warner again, this time as a member of John Casimir's Young Tuxedo Jazz Band. (American Music AMCD-61). Kid Howard was on trumpet, Warner, trombone, John Casimir, clarinet, Manny Sayles, banjo, Wilbert Tillman, tuba and Alfred Williams, drums.

Albert Warner was also member of one of the few New Orleans bands that went on a concert tour outside the city in the early sixties. In September 1961, Kid Sheik's Storyville Ramblers, Sheik, Warner, John Handy, Louis Gallaud, Papa John Joseph and Cie Frazier, played at the Empress Room of The Hotel Tudor Arms in Cleveland Ohio. The band was recorded on September 28, 1961. (American Music AMCD-69)

On February 5, 1962, the Harold Dejan's Olympia Brass Band was recorded for the first time. Barry Martyn recorded the following band for his M.O.N.O. label, Sheik and Ernie Cagnolatti, trumpets, Albert Warner and Louis Nelson, trombones, Harold Dejan, alto sax, Jessie Charles, tenor sax, Louis Cottrell, clarinet, Anderson Minor, sousaphone, Cie Frazier, snare drum and Booker T Glass, bass drum. On May 3, 1963, Warner was also present on another recording by the Olympia Brass band. This session remains unissued.

Walter Eysselinck was a cultural jack-of-all trades. He wrote and directed plays, taught drama, documented the folk music of New Orleans, was director of the Flemish National Theatre, organised the Gent Jazz Club and helped starting musicians in finding the 'true gospel', etc. And above all, he loved the music from New Orleans. And where ever, he had his assignment, he invited musicians who played New Orleans music, whether he was working at the State University of New York at Binghamton or in Cairo, Egypt.
In the Spring of 1962, Walter had already invited Billie and DeDe Pierce up to Harpur College for a series of concerts. (American Music AMCD-79 and AMCD-80) In the Autumn of 1962, he invited Billie and DeDe again for another series of concerts. This time, he wanted them to come with the band they used to play at Preservation Hall at that time, with George Lewis, Albert Warner and Albert Jiles. For different reasons, Lewis and Jiles could not make it and were replaced by Willie Humphrey and Cie Frazier. The result of these concerts can be found on American Music AMCD-81 and AMCD-82.

Albert Warner was also member of one of the first bands that went on tour under the name Preservation Hall Jazz Band. Billie and DeDe Pierce, Polo Barnes, Warner, George Guesnon, Cie Frazier and Allan Jaffe went to Memphis in 1965. During that tour Albert got sick and was taken to the E.H. Crump Memorial Hospital in Memphis and therefore he missed 3 concerts.
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